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	<description>Candidate for city councillor, Ward 27, Toronto</description>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by Daryl Vernon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl Vernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A commendable attempt, Chris. But why so openly broach a touchy subject that so many with minimal information deign to prate on about? A hard way to generate publicity. And for a Ward campaign? 

Ralph, nice try, too, but no need to quantify: why not drop the &quot;equal&quot;? It can detract from grasping that that majoritarian yearning is weighted more for peace on one side, dignity on the other. That is not necessarily to grade either neither.

And all you apartheid-callers, take a better look at your ongoing own Canada for a real font of apartheid, eg via the Indian Act. A quote from Roger Spielmann&#039;s Anishbnaabe World (&#039;09; not a great book, but he creditably points you to where to learn more in depth): &quot;With the recent move in South Africa towards the dismantling of the system of Apartheid, Canada is the only country left in the western world where such a system still exists.  With its legislated system of separation by race as embodied in The Indian Act, Canada continues to promote a racist (...&quot;legislated system of separation by race.&quot; Am I lying?) and paternalistic relationship with First Nations.&quot; And elsewhere in the book, &quot;In both countries [not Israel, right?] &quot;reserves&quot; were established where indigenous (or homeland) people were strenuously encouraged and even forced to live. I mean, how else could one get the homeland people out of the way of &quot;civilization&quot; (read: land + resources = lots of money)? While reserves no longer exist in South Africa, they still exist in Canada [...]&quot;

Now that seems like quite the digression here, doesn&#039;t it. Not unlike an anti-Israel banner in the parade, wouldn&#039;t you say?

But do note one thing, anyone who would deign to speak loudly from afar little respecting the intense locality of the conflict: the same manipulative forces -- &quot;lots of money&quot; -- that shunted First Nations around here, and other peoples in S. Africa, effect the very same damage in and around Israel. Look a little deeper and see from a bit higher, with humility of distance. 

Honour the localism of the people on the ground. Like parading people, feet on the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commendable attempt, Chris. But why so openly broach a touchy subject that so many with minimal information deign to prate on about? A hard way to generate publicity. And for a Ward campaign? </p>
<p>Ralph, nice try, too, but no need to quantify: why not drop the &#8220;equal&#8221;? It can detract from grasping that that majoritarian yearning is weighted more for peace on one side, dignity on the other. That is not necessarily to grade either neither.</p>
<p>And all you apartheid-callers, take a better look at your ongoing own Canada for a real font of apartheid, eg via the Indian Act. A quote from Roger Spielmann&#8217;s Anishbnaabe World (&#8216;09; not a great book, but he creditably points you to where to learn more in depth): &#8220;With the recent move in South Africa towards the dismantling of the system of Apartheid, Canada is the only country left in the western world where such a system still exists.  With its legislated system of separation by race as embodied in The Indian Act, Canada continues to promote a racist (&#8230;&#8221;legislated system of separation by race.&#8221; Am I lying?) and paternalistic relationship with First Nations.&#8221; And elsewhere in the book, &#8220;In both countries [not Israel, right?] &#8220;reserves&#8221; were established where indigenous (or homeland) people were strenuously encouraged and even forced to live. I mean, how else could one get the homeland people out of the way of &#8220;civilization&#8221; (read: land + resources = lots of money)? While reserves no longer exist in South Africa, they still exist in Canada [...]&#8221;</p>
<p>Now that seems like quite the digression here, doesn&#8217;t it. Not unlike an anti-Israel banner in the parade, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
<p>But do note one thing, anyone who would deign to speak loudly from afar little respecting the intense locality of the conflict: the same manipulative forces &#8212; &#8220;lots of money&#8221; &#8212; that shunted First Nations around here, and other peoples in S. Africa, effect the very same damage in and around Israel. Look a little deeper and see from a bit higher, with humility of distance. </p>
<p>Honour the localism of the people on the ground. Like parading people, feet on the ground.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to christindal.ca by josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to better understand his attitude towards privatizing ttc and allowing it to run as a business not such a self serving labour organization. mass transit is great. who was behind the stupidity of the st clair ttc &quot;improvement&quot; that caused approx 20% of merchants to go out of business??!! why did the city not offer tax compensation to landlords to pass on to merchants as a rent subsidy during the construction. look at how many people were served by this ttc improvement, just to &quot;speed things along&quot; by 4 or 5 minutes?

what is chris&#039; attitude to building more subways and decreasing streetcars and buses that only impede the flow of traffic and are inefficient mass transporters in comparison to subways....look at paris, for example!!

look at the disruption on bloor....and for what??? reduced car lanes, more bike lanes, less parking (i have listened to the arguements by city engineers but they are so much gabble). when i asked planners if they had planned for traffic flow impedence by all the work to take place, the city planner, in front of about 100 regional merchants, said NO!! he said, &quot;typically we wait to see what happens and then we do something if needed&quot;!!! this is why our city is so screwed up from a planning/traffic perspective!! i would like to hear what chris has to say about this attitude at metro hall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to better understand his attitude towards privatizing ttc and allowing it to run as a business not such a self serving labour organization. mass transit is great. who was behind the stupidity of the st clair ttc &#8220;improvement&#8221; that caused approx 20% of merchants to go out of business??!! why did the city not offer tax compensation to landlords to pass on to merchants as a rent subsidy during the construction. look at how many people were served by this ttc improvement, just to &#8220;speed things along&#8221; by 4 or 5 minutes?</p>
<p>what is chris&#8217; attitude to building more subways and decreasing streetcars and buses that only impede the flow of traffic and are inefficient mass transporters in comparison to subways&#8230;.look at paris, for example!!</p>
<p>look at the disruption on bloor&#8230;.and for what??? reduced car lanes, more bike lanes, less parking (i have listened to the arguements by city engineers but they are so much gabble). when i asked planners if they had planned for traffic flow impedence by all the work to take place, the city planner, in front of about 100 regional merchants, said NO!! he said, &#8220;typically we wait to see what happens and then we do something if needed&#8221;!!! this is why our city is so screwed up from a planning/traffic perspective!! i would like to hear what chris has to say about this attitude at metro hall!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why drivers will love more bike lanes and better transit by josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>having spent a lot of time in copenhagen, the city planners were much more concientious of the needs of motorists and further, this is a very old city., not set up or designed with the grid we have or the suburban issues. i have no problem with bike lanes, but, not at the expense of car lanes on major arteries. make bike roads, dont destroy the accessibility and traffic flow of major auto roads such as st clair, bloor or avenue road or mount pleasant. what city planner are considering, for example with bloor and mt pleasant is nothing but a form of tyranny against drivers. the city is going to such a huge expense to take away from auto traffic the planners, elected officials and administrators would be better off spending the money on &quot;all bike&quot; designated roads! then there would be no more road sharing and road rage on the part of either bikers or drivers and far fewer accidents or near accidents. until bikers can be stopped and charged for misdeads on the roads as readily as drivers, bike sharing with either pedestrians or cars is ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having spent a lot of time in copenhagen, the city planners were much more concientious of the needs of motorists and further, this is a very old city., not set up or designed with the grid we have or the suburban issues. i have no problem with bike lanes, but, not at the expense of car lanes on major arteries. make bike roads, dont destroy the accessibility and traffic flow of major auto roads such as st clair, bloor or avenue road or mount pleasant. what city planner are considering, for example with bloor and mt pleasant is nothing but a form of tyranny against drivers. the city is going to such a huge expense to take away from auto traffic the planners, elected officials and administrators would be better off spending the money on &#8220;all bike&#8221; designated roads! then there would be no more road sharing and road rage on the part of either bikers or drivers and far fewer accidents or near accidents. until bikers can be stopped and charged for misdeads on the roads as readily as drivers, bike sharing with either pedestrians or cars is ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by Chris Tindal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Tindal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RO I&#039;m referring to the need for our councillor to defend the rights and history of the LGBT community, particularly as it relates to Canada&#039;s historic gay main street, Church. Of course I agree that our councillor must represent the whole ward, and that&#039;s something that&#039;s particularly important to me (having lived in three different parts of the Ward myself). I do not anticipate that defending Queer rights and the history of Pride will conflict with the needs of the rest of the Ward; to the contrary, that&#039;s in all of our interests.

With reference to one of your specific concerns, I can assure you that I have not and will not take any positions that I deem important to my electoral success but bad for the Ward or the city. That is an admittedly tempting idea for some politicians, but it&#039;s always a losing game in the long run. As voters we want genuine priorities and commitments, not pandering transactional politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RO I&#8217;m referring to the need for our councillor to defend the rights and history of the LGBT community, particularly as it relates to Canada&#8217;s historic gay main street, Church. Of course I agree that our councillor must represent the whole ward, and that&#8217;s something that&#8217;s particularly important to me (having lived in three different parts of the Ward myself). I do not anticipate that defending Queer rights and the history of Pride will conflict with the needs of the rest of the Ward; to the contrary, that&#8217;s in all of our interests.</p>
<p>With reference to one of your specific concerns, I can assure you that I have not and will not take any positions that I deem important to my electoral success but bad for the Ward or the city. That is an admittedly tempting idea for some politicians, but it&#8217;s always a losing game in the long run. As voters we want genuine priorities and commitments, not pandering transactional politics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by ralph benmergui</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph benmergui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my years of covering and creating documentaries about middle east issues and particularly the painful realities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. 
What I have come to believe is that their is no black and white just the highly complex web of both dysfunctional and functional relationships. Both sides hold truths and lies in equal measures. Inflamatory language and polarizing positions ignore the yearning for dignity and peace that the overwhelming majority of both populations want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my years of covering and creating documentaries about middle east issues and particularly the painful realities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<br />
What I have come to believe is that their is no black and white just the highly complex web of both dysfunctional and functional relationships. Both sides hold truths and lies in equal measures. Inflamatory language and polarizing positions ignore the yearning for dignity and peace that the overwhelming majority of both populations want.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by RO</title>
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		<dc:creator>RO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the councillor of Ward 27 must be a clear and unapologetic advocate for the LGBT community.&quot;

Huh?

Chris, a councillor must first be a clear and unapologetic advocate for the interests of all their constituents and not just one part of their constituency.

Will you be an unapologetic advocate for a position taken by any group that you deem important to your electoral success that also happens to be a bad position for your Ward or Toronto? 

How will you be an unapologetic advocate for one group&#039;s position if it clashes with your own views or those of another group within your ward?

The LGBT community has no exclusivity on political virtue. They, like any other group, have the capacity to be wrong.

A wanna be leader is a tad more nuanced, because otherwise one day he might find himself way out on a limb looking back at someone with a saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the councillor of Ward 27 must be a clear and unapologetic advocate for the LGBT community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Chris, a councillor must first be a clear and unapologetic advocate for the interests of all their constituents and not just one part of their constituency.</p>
<p>Will you be an unapologetic advocate for a position taken by any group that you deem important to your electoral success that also happens to be a bad position for your Ward or Toronto? </p>
<p>How will you be an unapologetic advocate for one group&#8217;s position if it clashes with your own views or those of another group within your ward?</p>
<p>The LGBT community has no exclusivity on political virtue. They, like any other group, have the capacity to be wrong.</p>
<p>A wanna be leader is a tad more nuanced, because otherwise one day he might find himself way out on a limb looking back at someone with a saw.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by Zach Paikin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Paikin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to thank Chris for being so open minded on an issue as important as this.

For all of the posts above, I urge you all to do your homework. As someone who has traveled to Israel and the West Bank, I can assure you that there is no &quot;apartheid&quot; in Israel.

The most important thing is that one needs to differentiate between the 1.4 million Arab Israelis, and the Palestinian population governed by the PA.

Arab Israelis have fulls rights. They can vote, run for office (and have three parties currently in the Knesset), work for equal pay, have served in cabinet, on the Supreme Court and in diplomatic initiatives, etc. Yes, there are inequalities. There are inequalities in every democracy. And we&#039;re working on bettering them here in Canada too.

But democracy is the best thing we&#039;ve got. Don&#039;t forget that Arabs in Israel enjoy more rights than Arabs in any Arab state.

As for Palestinians, 97% of them are under PA sovereignty rule. Israel can&#039;t enforce &quot;apartheid&quot; against them, as they aren&#039;t in Israel proper. Plain and simple. Read the Oslo Accords.

Instead of pointing the finger and calling names (such as &quot;apartheid&quot;, &quot;genocide&quot;, &quot;occupation&quot;, and &quot;Nazi state&quot;, let&#039;s talk to each other. Let&#039;s sit down and see where each of us is coming from.

It&#039;s time to move forward. I hope you&#039;ll all join me in my quest for peace. Shalom-Salaam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to thank Chris for being so open minded on an issue as important as this.</p>
<p>For all of the posts above, I urge you all to do your homework. As someone who has traveled to Israel and the West Bank, I can assure you that there is no &#8220;apartheid&#8221; in Israel.</p>
<p>The most important thing is that one needs to differentiate between the 1.4 million Arab Israelis, and the Palestinian population governed by the PA.</p>
<p>Arab Israelis have fulls rights. They can vote, run for office (and have three parties currently in the Knesset), work for equal pay, have served in cabinet, on the Supreme Court and in diplomatic initiatives, etc. Yes, there are inequalities. There are inequalities in every democracy. And we&#8217;re working on bettering them here in Canada too.</p>
<p>But democracy is the best thing we&#8217;ve got. Don&#8217;t forget that Arabs in Israel enjoy more rights than Arabs in any Arab state.</p>
<p>As for Palestinians, 97% of them are under PA sovereignty rule. Israel can&#8217;t enforce &#8220;apartheid&#8221; against them, as they aren&#8217;t in Israel proper. Plain and simple. Read the Oslo Accords.</p>
<p>Instead of pointing the finger and calling names (such as &#8220;apartheid&#8221;, &#8220;genocide&#8221;, &#8220;occupation&#8221;, and &#8220;Nazi state&#8221;, let&#8217;s talk to each other. Let&#8217;s sit down and see where each of us is coming from.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to move forward. I hope you&#8217;ll all join me in my quest for peace. Shalom-Salaam.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every Toronto gay pride year, there&#039;s one lone man walking in the pride parade march with a sign protesting the gay rights movements.  I don&#039;t agree with his anti gay opinions, however I have found myself applauding for him as he marches by me out of respect for him standing up to what he believes is wrong.

Often, I find other pride parade viewers around me feeling the same way as I, and applauding for the lone guy as he marches for his right for freedom of expression.

As a openly gay male, without freedom of expression existing in Canada, I would not have the luxury of being open about my sexuality to begin with!

Chris, thank you for bringing this issue to light!  We all need to express our thoughts towards this to the Gay Pride executive board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every Toronto gay pride year, there&#8217;s one lone man walking in the pride parade march with a sign protesting the gay rights movements.  I don&#8217;t agree with his anti gay opinions, however I have found myself applauding for him as he marches by me out of respect for him standing up to what he believes is wrong.</p>
<p>Often, I find other pride parade viewers around me feeling the same way as I, and applauding for the lone guy as he marches for his right for freedom of expression.</p>
<p>As a openly gay male, without freedom of expression existing in Canada, I would not have the luxury of being open about my sexuality to begin with!</p>
<p>Chris, thank you for bringing this issue to light!  We all need to express our thoughts towards this to the Gay Pride executive board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I think you need to educate yourself on the issue of Israeli apartheid. You need more information and to consider a different perspective. I recommend the following two sources, for starters.

&quot;The Human Sciences Research Council of South Africa (HSRC) has released a study indicating that Israel is practicing both colonialism and apartheid in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). The study is being posted for public debate on this website.&quot;:
http://www.hsrc.ac.za/Media_Release-378.phtml

&quot;Coming out against Israeli apartheid: The case for solidarity&quot;:
http://www.rabble.ca/news/2010/03/coming-out-against-israeli-apartheid-case-solidarity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I think you need to educate yourself on the issue of Israeli apartheid. You need more information and to consider a different perspective. I recommend the following two sources, for starters.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Human Sciences Research Council of South Africa (HSRC) has released a study indicating that Israel is practicing both colonialism and apartheid in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). The study is being posted for public debate on this website.&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://www.hsrc.ac.za/Media_Release-378.phtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.hsrc.ac.za/Media_Release-378.phtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Coming out against Israeli apartheid: The case for solidarity&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://www.rabble.ca/news/2010/03/coming-out-against-israeli-apartheid-case-solidarity" rel="nofollow">http://www.rabble.ca/news/2010/03/coming-out-against-israeli-apartheid-case-solidarity</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Celebrating differences, finding common ground by Chris Tindal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Tindal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex...

&quot;I hope I don’t need to point out that criticizing a government does not mean you are criticizing the people who live there, and it has nothing to do with race or ethnicity.&quot;

I agree, and have said so on this blog before. This is an important distinction that needs to be emphasized.

&quot;“Objectionable” messages – even on “sensitive” subjects, are part of the tradition of Pride.&quot;

Absolutely, and that should continue, as I said above. That is the main point of my post.

&quot;This is not an issue of the Jewish community versus the queer community. If you have been following Xtra, you know that many of the people involved in Queers Against Israeli Apartheid are Jewish themselves.&quot;

I am following Xtra&#039;s coverage closely. Neither community is homogeneous, but we can&#039;t pretend there isn&#039;t a conflict between some members of each community, who seem to be at an impasse. By pointing out common objectives, we can begin to dislodge that impasse.

&quot;I recommend that you talk to the people involved to more fully understand their point of view before you wade into the issue.&quot;

I&#039;ve talked to many who feel passionately about this issue one way or the other, including before publishing this post. I received strong messages of support from members of both the Queer and Jewish communities, but again, there will always be different opinions within any community. The comments being left by you and others on this blog continue to help illuminate different perspectives and contribute to ongoing better understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope I don’t need to point out that criticizing a government does not mean you are criticizing the people who live there, and it has nothing to do with race or ethnicity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, and have said so on this blog before. This is an important distinction that needs to be emphasized.</p>
<p>&#8220;“Objectionable” messages – even on “sensitive” subjects, are part of the tradition of Pride.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, and that should continue, as I said above. That is the main point of my post.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is not an issue of the Jewish community versus the queer community. If you have been following Xtra, you know that many of the people involved in Queers Against Israeli Apartheid are Jewish themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am following Xtra&#8217;s coverage closely. Neither community is homogeneous, but we can&#8217;t pretend there isn&#8217;t a conflict between some members of each community, who seem to be at an impasse. By pointing out common objectives, we can begin to dislodge that impasse.</p>
<p>&#8220;I recommend that you talk to the people involved to more fully understand their point of view before you wade into the issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve talked to many who feel passionately about this issue one way or the other, including before publishing this post. I received strong messages of support from members of both the Queer and Jewish communities, but again, there will always be different opinions within any community. The comments being left by you and others on this blog continue to help illuminate different perspectives and contribute to ongoing better understanding.</p>
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