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		<title>By: dinosaur</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny Rae would talk like that re the CPC when his liberals invite dems to their conventions and no one gives them a hard time.  

Blacksheep re Tibet tibetans are also forbidden from marrying another Tibeten they are only allowed to marry someone who is Chinese.  

Where does Paul Martin get his ships built after closing the Collingwood shipyard in Ontario? china. 

Where did Chretien always hit with his team Canada missions? China.


No Liberal I can recollect ever met with the Dali Lama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny Rae would talk like that re the CPC when his liberals invite dems to their conventions and no one gives them a hard time.  </p>
<p>Blacksheep re Tibet tibetans are also forbidden from marrying another Tibeten they are only allowed to marry someone who is Chinese.  </p>
<p>Where does Paul Martin get his ships built after closing the Collingwood shipyard in Ontario? china. </p>
<p>Where did Chretien always hit with his team Canada missions? China.</p>
<p>No Liberal I can recollect ever met with the Dali Lama.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackSheep</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you Chris for raising the level of the debate and acknowledging the expectations that we the people hold of those who vie to rule over us.  If we deem our democratic institutions that have evolved over millenniums to be the highest means of  self-governance, then why do some who seek to get hold of the levers of power, continue to drag DEMOCRACY into the gutter by  exploiting the basest human instincts and weaknesses of the species? 

Chris, you must have them running scarred that they need to resort to such tactics!

Is this deep integration of the economy and security with the US some neo-con republican plot? Average Canadians and Americans share many of the same values. Their concerns lies over the power that transnational corporations will acquire through these arrangements whereby we are denied a voice in the important decisions in how the resources and wealth of this great nation get shared so that people will continue to have access to health care, public education, old age security. Also at stake is who is to pay for the externalized costs associated with pollution and the degradation to the environment by the corporations.

While Bob Rae seeks to paint the Federal Conservative government of Mr. Harper as stooges of Bush and the Republicans,  where does Mr. Rae and the Liberal Party of Canada stand on the deep integration?

Back in early 2005, Prime Minister Paul Martin signed the SPP pact with U.S. President George W. Bush and Mexican President Vicente Fox.

Back in 1993 Jean Chretien had promised voters that he would renegotiate NAFTA if his Liberals won the election. NAFTA came into effect Jan.1, 1994, and was proclaimed by Jean Chretienâ€™s Liberal government.

What was then Premier Bob Raeâ€™s response at the time to ChrÃ©tien having broken his election promise?
  
What did his government do when called on by unions across Canada and other provincial governments to oppose the 1994 NAFTA deal?

What did Bob Rae tell voters about the Canada US Free trade agreement when electioneering back in 1990 in the Ontario Provincial election?

What did he do once elected? 
 
What is Bob Raeâ€™s stand on SPP?

Does Bob Rae support the backroom secret process where the large multinationals set at the table where the rules are being hammered out?

The answers to these questions will help voters decide if Bob  Rae is a democrat  or man of the establishment. 
  
Yes Stephen Harper represents a constituency whose values are right of center. But are all Canadians who vote  conservative  neo-cons doing the bidding of George Bush and ready to sell out Canada?  Stop insulting the citizenry with this type of demagoguery!

If we are going to charge PM Harper of selling out Canada, then letâ€™s call a spade a spade. What is the record of the Liberal Party of Canada and Bob Rae?

News flash: â€œChina admitted today that it had quashed a protest by Buddhist monks in the Tibetan capital of Lhasaâ€.
â€œAfter invading Tibet in 1950, the Chinese communists killed over one million Tibetans, destroyed over 6,000 monasteries, and turned Tibet&#039;s northeastern province, Amdo, into a gulag housing, by one estimate, up to ten million people. A quarter of a million Chinese troops remain stationed in Tibet. In addition, some 7.5 million Chinese have responded to Beijing&#039;s incentives to relocate to Tibet; they now outnumber the 6 million Tibetans. Through what has been termed Chinese apartheid, ethnic Tibetans now have a lower life expectancy, literacy rate, and per capita income than Chinese inhabitants of Tibet.â€ 

Last year Stephen  Harper met with the Dalai Lama on Parliament Hill for 40 minutes in front of  television cameras and photographers to record the event.
Chinaâ€™s Foreign ministry spokesman told reporters in Beijing: &quot;This kind of disgusting conduct from Canada has seriously hurt Chinese people&#039;s feelings and seriously undermined Sino-Canadian relations.&quot;  China called Prime Minister Stephen Harper&#039;s official meeting with the Dalai Lama &quot;disgusting conduct.&quot; 

In 2004, when former prime minister Paul Martin met the Nobel laureate, he kept things low-key in a bid not to annoy Canada&#039;s second largest trading partner. The meeting was in a private residence in Ottawa and photographers were not invited.

What has been Bob Raeâ€™s response to the Stephen Harper Government foreign policy on China?

http://www.torontosun.ca/Comment/Commentary/2006/11/21/2431810.html

Act locally. Think globally. 

There are global issues that transcend TO center.  To others, our choices amount to matters of life and death.  What you decide in Toronto Center may well impact on the lives of others oceans away.  What you can give these people on March 17th is hope for a better future. VOTE FOR CHANGE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you Chris for raising the level of the debate and acknowledging the expectations that we the people hold of those who vie to rule over us.  If we deem our democratic institutions that have evolved over millenniums to be the highest means of  self-governance, then why do some who seek to get hold of the levers of power, continue to drag DEMOCRACY into the gutter by  exploiting the basest human instincts and weaknesses of the species? </p>
<p>Chris, you must have them running scarred that they need to resort to such tactics!</p>
<p>Is this deep integration of the economy and security with the US some neo-con republican plot? Average Canadians and Americans share many of the same values. Their concerns lies over the power that transnational corporations will acquire through these arrangements whereby we are denied a voice in the important decisions in how the resources and wealth of this great nation get shared so that people will continue to have access to health care, public education, old age security. Also at stake is who is to pay for the externalized costs associated with pollution and the degradation to the environment by the corporations.</p>
<p>While Bob Rae seeks to paint the Federal Conservative government of Mr. Harper as stooges of Bush and the Republicans,  where does Mr. Rae and the Liberal Party of Canada stand on the deep integration?</p>
<p>Back in early 2005, Prime Minister Paul Martin signed the SPP pact with U.S. President George W. Bush and Mexican President Vicente Fox.</p>
<p>Back in 1993 Jean Chretien had promised voters that he would renegotiate NAFTA if his Liberals won the election. NAFTA came into effect Jan.1, 1994, and was proclaimed by Jean Chretienâ€™s Liberal government.</p>
<p>What was then Premier Bob Raeâ€™s response at the time to ChrÃ©tien having broken his election promise?</p>
<p>What did his government do when called on by unions across Canada and other provincial governments to oppose the 1994 NAFTA deal?</p>
<p>What did Bob Rae tell voters about the Canada US Free trade agreement when electioneering back in 1990 in the Ontario Provincial election?</p>
<p>What did he do once elected? </p>
<p>What is Bob Raeâ€™s stand on SPP?</p>
<p>Does Bob Rae support the backroom secret process where the large multinationals set at the table where the rules are being hammered out?</p>
<p>The answers to these questions will help voters decide if Bob  Rae is a democrat  or man of the establishment. </p>
<p>Yes Stephen Harper represents a constituency whose values are right of center. But are all Canadians who vote  conservative  neo-cons doing the bidding of George Bush and ready to sell out Canada?  Stop insulting the citizenry with this type of demagoguery!</p>
<p>If we are going to charge PM Harper of selling out Canada, then letâ€™s call a spade a spade. What is the record of the Liberal Party of Canada and Bob Rae?</p>
<p>News flash: â€œChina admitted today that it had quashed a protest by Buddhist monks in the Tibetan capital of Lhasaâ€.<br />
â€œAfter invading Tibet in 1950, the Chinese communists killed over one million Tibetans, destroyed over 6,000 monasteries, and turned Tibet&#8217;s northeastern province, Amdo, into a gulag housing, by one estimate, up to ten million people. A quarter of a million Chinese troops remain stationed in Tibet. In addition, some 7.5 million Chinese have responded to Beijing&#8217;s incentives to relocate to Tibet; they now outnumber the 6 million Tibetans. Through what has been termed Chinese apartheid, ethnic Tibetans now have a lower life expectancy, literacy rate, and per capita income than Chinese inhabitants of Tibet.â€ </p>
<p>Last year Stephen  Harper met with the Dalai Lama on Parliament Hill for 40 minutes in front of  television cameras and photographers to record the event.<br />
Chinaâ€™s Foreign ministry spokesman told reporters in Beijing: &#8220;This kind of disgusting conduct from Canada has seriously hurt Chinese people&#8217;s feelings and seriously undermined Sino-Canadian relations.&#8221;  China called Prime Minister Stephen Harper&#8217;s official meeting with the Dalai Lama &#8220;disgusting conduct.&#8221; </p>
<p>In 2004, when former prime minister Paul Martin met the Nobel laureate, he kept things low-key in a bid not to annoy Canada&#8217;s second largest trading partner. The meeting was in a private residence in Ottawa and photographers were not invited.</p>
<p>What has been Bob Raeâ€™s response to the Stephen Harper Government foreign policy on China?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.torontosun.ca/Comment/Commentary/2006/11/21/2431810.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.torontosun.ca/Comment/Commentary/2006/11/21/2431810.html</a></p>
<p>Act locally. Think globally. </p>
<p>There are global issues that transcend TO center.  To others, our choices amount to matters of life and death.  What you decide in Toronto Center may well impact on the lives of others oceans away.  What you can give these people on March 17th is hope for a better future. VOTE FOR CHANGE.</p>
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